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Postby gigizach » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:09 pm

When do a colts testicles come in?

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Postby Piaffing » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:37 pm

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#They should be totally dropped by 18 months old.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Re: colts

Postby dazzling » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:55 pm

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gigizach wrote:When do a colts testicles come in?#ed_op#BR#ed_cl#
#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#When it's cold.  Sorry, couldn't resist.  #ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys/Teasing/12.gif"#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#Most of mine are born with them down and they don't go back up.  They "should" be fully descended between 18 and 24 mos. at the very latest.  Most of my colts are gelded between 6 and 8 mos. old.#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Re: colts

Postby graciespook » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:23 am

dazzling wrote:#ed_op#P#ed_cl#
gigizach wrote:When do a colts testicles come in?#ed_op#BR#ed_cl#
#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#When it's cold.&nbsp; Sorry, couldn't resist.&nbsp; #ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys/Teasing/12.gif"#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#Most of mine are born with them down and they don't go back up.&nbsp; They "should" be fully descended between 18 and 24 mos. at the very latest.&nbsp; Most of my colts are gelded between 6 and 8 mos. old.#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#LOL.....good one#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby Ruth » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:35 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#If they're not down by 3, they aren't going to. However I think most people don't wait that long to find out, I think the surgery is trickier when they are older.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby gigizach » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:46 pm

I guess I set myself up for that one!

I have a yearling colt and there is no sign of testicles! I just purchased him so I don't know much history. I do however know that he hasn't been gelded.

Well, thanks for the info.
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Postby babytigger » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:57 pm

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#lol dazzling...good one.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#you geld your guys fairly early eh? 6-8 mths old.....i thought it was most commonly done at about 2ish, but i could be wrong...guess it all depends of what you want them for....#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby Ruth » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:38 pm

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Some people geld even earlier if both testicles have descended! My farrier gelded their "surprise" colt at 3 months.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby graciespook » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:32 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#It depends when they've descended. We had one done at 7 months, and another at a year and a half. #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby ArabJumper » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:55 pm

My colts dropped way early, around 3 months! YIKES!! They are all gone now!! yay!!
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Postby Positively4thStreet » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:18 pm

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Yeah, 18-24 months seems to be the norm for the testes to drop.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I don't see why people geld earlier than 2 if they're into serious breeding and selling. If you want a gelding to have that nice, thick, muscled stallion look, generally 2 or early 3 is a good time to geld. However, for a less business-driven breeder, it's probably best to geld them early so you don't have to deal with them getting bratty.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby Ruth » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:21 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#P4th - once they stop producing as much testosterone they will lose the stallion look anyway, regardless of age.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Some people geld earlier to A) prevent accidental breedings - even weanlings are capable of getting someone pregnant.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#B) for ease of handling and turnout.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Once my donkey was a yearling he was downright dangerous, and could only be turned out with pregnant mares. Jack donkeys are far worse than colts, so that may be an extreme example, but I figure if the colt isn't a stallion prospect then there's no reason to keep the pesky extra bits around any longer than you need to.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby Pretty_Pony72 » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:39 am

Ruth wrote:#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Some people geld earlier to A) prevent accidental breedings - even weanlings are capable of getting someone pregnant.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Hmm... The weaning we have, 1 colt one filly could he make her in foal? Or does the filly / mares have the same kind of cycle type thing that we do.. Have to be a certin age before the mature enough? Dumb question..#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#And we have another stud, comming&nbsp;2 he gets put out in the heard where a mare is.. if he doesn't know hes a stud yet are they fine?? #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#BR#ed_cl#And my WE i mean my coach!! I flipped out when i saw the stud out with the mare!#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby Littlegreymare » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:24 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl#Generally&nbsp; it's best to geld as a yearling. #ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl#And anything older than a year shouldn't be out with mares anyway, whether they "know" or not.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl#You can geld them as soon as both testicals "drop", or you can wait forever. I would prefer to geld very very early.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl#And I now know to never buy a colt again without checking their giggleberries. I've had three now, and two of the three were cryptorchid :) nice eh?#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl#The first one was sold down to Indiana and spent the trailer ride with a flashy DWB filly in the back of the trailer. When he was loaded he was a cryptorchid, when he was unloaded he had both there lol! And he was 26 months old at that point.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby AQHAgirl » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:39 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#PP72.......A yearling could certainly get a mare in foal if they felt like it and also if the filly is a yearling she probably also already cycling like a regular mare and really a pregnant yearling would be no laughing matter.&nbsp;&nbsp; Also the 2 year old stud colt will know he's a stud if a mare he's out if goes into heat.&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp; Normally if you not keeping something as a stud for breeding purposes they are gelded before they are a yearling.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#PP72......I would get those horses cut and find a alternative to pastureing them with mares or filly's until that happens.&nbsp; If space is a option, I have heard of pasturing studs together if they are easy going and will allow it, or geldings and studs together also if they are good natured and don't try to kill each other.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Gigizach:&nbsp;&nbsp; Some colts are born with both testies already dropped....there wise normally they drop a few months later.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby Littlegreymare » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:02 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl#Colts, especially if kept for breeding purposes, should be turned out with other colts or geldings for socialization reasons.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl#It's not fair to isolate them and still expect them to behave like a normal horse.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl#Bruiser is currently out with 4 other geldings and it's really the best thing for him. He has excellent field manners because of that. Although he is pretty much at the bottom of the pecking order and they are older and less playful.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl#I'm looking forward to when we move, he'll be turned out with a weanling colt which will hopefully give him a chance to play.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby Ruth » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:39 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#PP72 - your weanlings will probably be OK over the winter. Technically the filly could get pregnant, but the likelihood of a weanling starting to cycle and actually ovulate at this time of year are pretty slim. I have my weanling colt and filly together, and plan on leaving them that way over the winter, but if he isn't gelded by March I will separate them then.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#The 2 yo needs to be away from the mare though! Can you put him out with your other geldings?#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby Judy F » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:42 am

My friend's last colt was born with both testicles already dropped and
was a major handful at 30 days.&nbsp; She asked the vet how long she
had to wait to have him gelded and he told her: 'I can do it next
week.'&nbsp; She did and he grew into a fine, tall, gentleman.#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
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Colts that are gelded early tend to grow significantly taller than
those that are left intact.&nbsp; I knew 2 Morgans, brothers, one
gelded and a good 16hh, his stallion sibling was barely 14.2h.&nbsp; #ed_op#br#ed_cl#
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Postby Judy F » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:42 am

My friend's last colt was born with both testicles already dropped and
was a major handful at 30 days.&nbsp; She asked the vet how long she
had to wait to have him gelded and he told her: 'I can do it next
week.'&nbsp; She did and he grew into a fine, tall, gentleman.#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
Colts that are gelded early tend to grow significantly taller than
those that are left intact.&nbsp; I knew 2 Morgans, brothers, one
gelded and a good 16hh, his stallion sibling was barely 14.2h.&nbsp; #ed_op#br#ed_cl#
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Postby Littlegreymare » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:02 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl#I'm afraid I believe the height suggestion to be a myth.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Verdana color=#668f5a size=2#ed_cl#Otherwise we wouldn't have nearly as many 17hh WB stallions available for breeding :)#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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