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Postby goldendryad » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:53 pm

<font color="magenta">Please, Chenders, I know it's tough but I urge you to get back on one last time before selling him. Just a quiet, little goodbye ride. For his confidense and yours. <br /> <br />As for the paint filly, I know how easy it is to fall in love with another when your own has let you down. But don't get too attached, she is still a baby, and although she seems to be progresing well, one day she may erupt and then your confidense will really be shattered. Just be careful. She does sound super, and in a few years, might be what you need. But I would wait and tune up your skills on an older schoolmaster type before taking on a youngster. <br /> <br />I know it's a tough decision. But I hope you find the best possible home for him.
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Postby chenders01 » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:20 pm

Thanks, GD <IMG src="smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">&nbsp;
As far as getting back on Dali, I don't think it's gonna happen.&nbsp; I just have lost ALL trust in him.&nbsp; I know that I would be a bundle of nerves, were I to get back on him.&nbsp; There's just no point <IMG src="smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0">
And yes, I hear you about Tequila...and I'm not rushing into anything with her.&nbsp; In a way, it's a good thing that I have Dali to sell first, otherwise I'd probably be buying her...but I can't afford two horses, so I'll just play around with her until Dali sells and then maybe just part-board her until I decide whether she is the One or not.&nbsp;
Another friend has told me of a horse she knows of who is for sale, which might be good for me.&nbsp; 12 years old, bombproof and has a natural ability for dressage.&nbsp; Not too big either (he's an Arab).&nbsp; So, he is an option too.
I don't want to rush into purchasing the first horse I've gotten on since Dali.&nbsp; I rushed into buying him so I don't want to do that again.
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Postby babytigger » Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:20 pm

chenders - wish i could help you out!! I'd love a horse of my own!!! and you're right dali does sound great for me!! i don't go looking for loco horses, but they seem to find me, so he wouldn't have to be crazy for me to enjoy him, but a little challenge i'm always up for!! <img border="0" src="smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br />sorry that i can't help you or dali!! at least not in any way i can think of!! <br /> <br />certainly sounds like you'll be asking a very reasonable price for him too...he sounds like a great buy for that price! <br /> <br /> <br />
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Postby tbbrat » Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:40 pm

That sounds like a reasonable price to me.
So you've found a little Paint to love - it's been my experience that they <EM>are</EM> very sensible.&nbsp; Teddy was a dream to break and train - even being 1/2 TB.&nbsp; Most of the time his attitude was "oh, okay!".&nbsp; Very rare for him to spook more than once at something new - the second time he is "oh yeah, seen <EM>that </EM>before" <IMG src="smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0">.&nbsp; Hope it goes well for you with the little girl.
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Postby *PrinceCharming » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:12 pm

chenders, as for that arab, i would definitely go and see him more than once if you are going to go, because every arab i've ever known is quite flighty.... even though they say its bombproof, you could classify dali as bombproof as he never shies at anything.. but its still not the personality you want..
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Postby goldendryad » Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:08 pm

<font color="magenta">PC - Not true! They're not all flighty!<img border="0" src="smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0"> I have been on more arabians than any other breed...and just like all breeds there is lots of variety. I have been on one flighty arabian. The rest have been wonderful, calm, attentive, virtually bombproof horses. Lots have been superior school horses and kids horses. <br /> <br />They are also very loyal to their owners, and real triers....and some are even extremely pokey. My friend has a high percentage Egyptian mare who is soooo pokey, and she is very green...but once again extremely quiet. <br /> <br />Another good thing about arabians is they're not usually buckers. <br /> <br />You can't lump them all in one group. <br /> <br />
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Postby *PrinceCharming » Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:20 pm

i didn't mean for anyone to take offense to it.. thats just my personal experience.. but i supose i would say the same for all TBs. Loyal, willing, brave, etc etc etc... but others would say it differently right?
i'm just telling chenders as i can see how Dali and her personalities aren't meshing very well right now and dont want her to end up in the same situation a month down the road..
they are hotblooded horses, just like TB's are... and a couple of the arabs i rode were vicious buckers... so i geuss depends where you get them from.<edited><editID>*PrinceCharming</editID><editDate>38399.9728703704</editDate></edited>
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Postby Sodapoppers » Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:40 pm

LOL GD - they don't buck until you lay a crop on them! lol Dream and his "twin" are very much like that!
Chenders where is this arab? If you go to see him i'm sorry, but you've got me tagging along too <IMG src="smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0">&nbsp;It's no secret i LOVE arabs...yes I know a girl who would like to take Dali but to be honest I do'nt think she could afford much of anything. Basically what she's able to afford right now is a real doozy 'fixer upper' - ie a harvey or dream at one point.
Too bad about Dali...but riding should be fun so go with what you are comfortable with. I know everytime i get off dream and have a good ride i am glowing enough to light up the continent <IMG src="smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0">
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Postby Ruth » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:44 pm

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I have ridden some very solid Arabs. I've also ridden a couple that were freaky, like any other breed it depends on the individual. There's an Arab mare where Boomer lives and she is eminently sensible. You can generalize by breed (I've never met a quiet Hackney Pony yet#ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys/Shocked/2.gif"#ed_cl#&nbsp;but I wouldn't not look at a horse based on a breed stereotype in regards to temperament if everything else sounds good.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby chenders01 » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:02 pm

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Don't worry, I'd never NOT go see a horse based solely on it's breed.&nbsp; Heck, I said I'd never buy a TB and then I ended up buying one.&nbsp; He didn't work out for me but that was because of ME not him.&nbsp; #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#As far as this Arab, he might not be for sale anymore so the whole topic is moot.&nbsp; If I knew for sure that he IS for sale, I'd probably go look at him.&nbsp; A good friend who knows ALL about my experiences with Dali has recommended this horse to me.&nbsp; I trust her when she says he's quiet.&nbsp; #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I've got someone coming to see Dali on Sunday.&nbsp; If they like him, he may be sold before I even start to advertise him...and once he's sold THEN I can start looking around at other horses.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby High Hopes » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:58 pm

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Well that is good to hear about someone coming up to see your boy!&nbsp; The one thing I really must caution you on (as I have done this) is to wait a couple of months before looking or buying?&nbsp; When I had to put my horse down I looked at 2 horses, had the 1st one vetted (but she failed) and the second one (Beau) bought although not broke.&nbsp; He was not the horse for me and took me 7 yrs to realise this one, so found Brae and bought her and then I saw Simon and fell in love with his eye (that and I think I just wanted 2 hores!).&nbsp; I think my problem was that I never let things lie after putting olie down and then reventured into owning.. I kept replacing.&nbsp; So just becareful about doing that kiddo!#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby chenders01 » Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:53 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Yeah, I hear ya HH.&nbsp; The LAST thing I want to do is rush into buying a new horse.&nbsp; I rushed into buying Dali...I was donating my QH to the therapeutic riding school, and didn't want to lose my stall at my barn, so I rushed into buying the first horse I went to look at...although, at the time, I thought that Dali was the perfect horse for me.&nbsp; Sigh...live and learn, I guess.&nbsp; And I *did* learn through my experience with Dali, that rushing into buying a new horse is not a very smart thing to do.&nbsp; I'm not worried about not getting a stall at my current barn.&nbsp; I know that the BO will find *some* place to put any new horse I might buy, even if it means putting it on pasture board until a stall comes available.&nbsp; I'm not worried about this aspect of things.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I also am lucky because I have a horse to ride right now, so I don't really *need* to rush into purchasing a new one.&nbsp; I'm riding Tequila right now...she's the 3yo Paint filly who is owned by the BO.&nbsp; I'm hoping that if Dali sells, I'll be able to part-board or even full lease her, until I decide whether I want to buy her or not.&nbsp; This will give me the option of shopping around and trying out other horses.&nbsp; And who knows, maybe I won't buy another horse&nbsp;at all.&nbsp; This winter has been really hard on me.&nbsp; I've hardly been going out to ride at all (even before the fiasco with Dali).&nbsp; &nbsp;Seems silly to own a horse that only gets ridden 3x a week.&nbsp; It might be better for me to find a dressage schoolmaster that I could part-board, rather than buying a 3yo who&nbsp;will need&nbsp;to be worked with a&nbsp;LOT more than 3x a week.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#So, I've got lots of options to ponder.&nbsp; I will not be rushing into buying Tequila right away though.&nbsp; I feel that she is much too young and green for me, and am not yet convinced that I want to take on as much of a challenge as I know she's going to be.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp; #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby *rickie* » Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:42 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Tahoma color=#c080ff#ed_cl#Chenders, It's soo sad to hear you talk about selling Dali, He's just soo gorgeous! But in the end it is your decision, and you have to do what is best for you, and Dali....if I had the money I'd take him!#ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys//happy.gif"#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Tahoma color=#c080ff#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Tahoma color=#c080ff#ed_cl#It's soo nice to finally hear someone talking smart about buying a horse, so many people just go out and buy anything! And they dont' understand that green horse and rider doesn't mix......but you do! #ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys/Happy/21.gif"#ed_cl#WONDERFUL! I feel really confident that you'll make a great choice!&nbsp;#ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys/Word_Greetings/1.gif"#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Tahoma color=#c080ff#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Tahoma color=#c080ff#ed_cl#And just for the record, my arab (seen in my avatar) was the #1 schoolie at my barn (while I was away at school) and he has since then been sold to a 7 y/o girl who is a beginner, and let me tell you! After having him a week or so, the little girls mom e-mailed me to tell me how much she appreciates him! He takes care of her little girl SOO WELL! So there are some REALLY WONDERFUL arabs! I've had the peasure of working with 2, and LOVE arabs b/c of both of them!#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby Sodapoppers » Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:50 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Why does it seem silly to only ride 3x a week? That's a nice workload for a pleasure rider/horse. When i first got Dream i sort of burnt him out riding 5-6 times a week. This last summer I stuck to a schedule or 3-4 times and he was quite happy and we progressed in leaps and bounds, far quicker than when we were riding more. just my .02 :D#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby Ruth » Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:04 pm

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I don't think 3 x a week is all that bad either! I show and I only ride 4x a week. In the summer I'll add a hack day, but Boomer isn't thrilled about working more than 2 days in a row. He'll do 3 if I insist, but everyone is happier this way. My coach is the same too, 4 schools a week and if he does another ride it's either a hack or very light work. However, from the point of view of finances and for a good learning experience I think that part-boarding a dressage schoolmaster is a terrific idea. I hear it's really a North American idea about green riders on green horses, I think in Europe that it's the opposite.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby chenders01 » Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:07 pm

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Well, I just think that if I end up buying Tequila (and I'm not saying that I'm going to, even though I had an AWESOME lesson on her this morning) I feel that 3x a week might not be enough for her.&nbsp; I should clarify though, I'm talking 3 *visits* to the barn, as in Wednesdays after work and then Saturday and Sunday.&nbsp; I don't think that's enough for a baby.&nbsp; I've been told that I should be handling/doing ground work with her *every* day, even when I don't ride her, and my schedule is such that I can't go out to&nbsp;the barn every day.&nbsp; This winter, it's been pretty sporadic, due to the cold.&nbsp; #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Okay,&nbsp;I might as well tell you guys about my lesson.&nbsp; First of all, I walked out to get Tequila.&nbsp; She's in a pretty big field with&nbsp;3 other mares.&nbsp; They were all standing at the round bale eating, but when I called&nbsp;Tequila, she&nbsp;walked alllll the way over to me.&nbsp; She got a 'good girl' and lots of praise (and a couple treats) for that.&nbsp; She seems to be bonding to me already...I don't know if it's because she's a baby, or a mare (or maybe it's a bit of both).&nbsp; Anyway, it's nice!&nbsp; #ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys//smiley1.gif"#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I lunged her a bit, to establish "forward" before&nbsp;getting on and she was good, although she had a bit of a brain-fart at one point because one of the big doors was open and she could see some other horses, so that became her focus for a bit.&nbsp; But I got her attention back on me and then I got on her.&nbsp; There was lots of action going on in the arena so I had to work constantly to keep her attention focused on me.&nbsp; This is something I'm not used to doing since I've always ridden older horses and they just *know* to not be gawking around LOL!&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#So, we kept everything at the walk and trot today, establishing forward, keeping her attention on me, and teaching her to bend into the circle instead of poking her nose out to the wall.&nbsp; I am learning along with her but she is such a good, mellow girl, she tries really hard to do what I'm asking.&nbsp; It IS different though.&nbsp; Working with her is like nothing I've ever done before.&nbsp; I've always ridden horses who took care of ME, not ones that needed ME to be the&nbsp;confident, guiding&nbsp;one.&nbsp; To be honest, I'm not sure that I'm&nbsp;up for&nbsp;the job&nbsp;or not.&nbsp; It's easy when my coach is there, telling me what to do, but I have a feeling that when I'm on my own with Tequila, it's all gonna go to the sh*ts&nbsp; #ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys//smiley6.gif"#ed_cl#&nbsp; There's sooooo much I don't know!#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Anyway, the lesson was really good!&nbsp; I learned a lot and Tequila never spooked once, even though&nbsp;there were lots of challenges for her.&nbsp; We got almost all the way up to the "scary" end of the arena - yay!!#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Edited to say that pics are forthcoming.&nbsp; My coach snapped a few so as soon as she emails them to me, I'll have them up in Webshots for you all to see.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby *rickie* » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:16 pm

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face=Tahoma color=#c080ff size=4#ed_cl#Sounds like you guys are bonding Chenders! She sounds like a nice young prospect! Glad you're enjoying her!#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby babytigger » Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:49 pm

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2#ed_cl#ah decisions decisions!! #ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys/Thinking/2.gif"#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2#ed_cl#sounds like while she's great right now as a confidence boost, she may not be what you're looking for as actual ownership potential. if putting in all the work for a youngin is going to be tough, and in the winter what isn't? then maybe what you need is an older more experienced horse....something like dali, but not dali. know what i mean?#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby High Hopes » Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:04 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Chenders,#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I'm glad you are going into buying with the correct frame of mind!&nbsp; Who knows lessons on a school master (if you want to persue dressage) just might be the thing for a bit.&nbsp; Teq sounds wonderful for your confidence.&nbsp; I would have to agree about handling a baby daily, as when I bought brae she had no manners to speak of!&nbsp; She got handled daily even if it was just to brush her and lead her around it made a GREAT improvement and I did get more compliments than not on her mannerism!#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Thrilled to hear you had a great lesson!#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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Postby chenders01 » Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:56 am

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Tequila pics are now posted in the Photo Gallery.&nbsp; #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
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