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#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys/Happy/19.gif"#ed_cl# That is EXACTLY the thought that went through my head when I read the title of this thread.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#graciespook wrote:#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Geez, thats an oxymoron...#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#0060bf#ed_cl#Hmm, how about instead of just assuming the company (who's name i've listed for all to see on a public bb!) sells crap, you get the facts straight first?#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#0060bf#ed_cl#TRAC Equine is able to sell their products cheaper because they buy in BULK - as anything is cheaper in bulk, so is glucosamine.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#0060bf#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#0060bf#ed_cl#GD - there is msm mixed in with the glucose that i get as well. Per pound it is 0.8 glucosamine, 0.2 msm.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#Jakesterd wrote:#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#you will get what you pay for. North american glucosamine is manufactured from cartilagenous materials collected from animals killed in inspected establishments, Yes Glucosamine is from animals!!! Your feeding your horses eead animals..lol#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#The cheap glucosamine is from china and is extracted from the tracheas of dead chickens. There is little quality control. Plus the threat of bacterial or viral contamination ( ie bird flu)#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Think about what your buying.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#JD#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#0060bf#ed_cl#If this is true, then glucosamine taken orally should no sooner work on people than on horses, is that correct? Is there a copy of this study for us all to see?#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#lokukac wrote:#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#If I am well informed, feedstuff originated from animals has very limited or zero digestibility for other animals who are supposed to eat plants. ( I am talking about adult animals, not nursing foals.)#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#So I am not suprised at all on that study what was cited by Jake showing the zero change in the blood of horses after feeding glucosamine orally.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#This is why I prefer Adequan. I'm sorry, I don't have the study results handy to quote, but they found an increase in levels within 48 hours of the injection. My horse is not on it for an existing problem so I really can't tell you if it makes a difference to him or not, and who knows, maybe they will study it further and discover that it doesn't make a difference after all and I am just wasting my money, but it is my money to waste. However, that is why I chose Adequan over oral glucosamine when I decided to put him on something for his joints, at that time it was the only product that had been studied and proven to actually deliver the goods so to speak. Probably the study was funded by Wyeth and biased... However I figured if I was going to spend an appreciable amount of money on a joint supplement that I would prefer to spend it on a product that had actually been tested.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I have tried Tuffy, who is 25 and does have arthritis and sesamoiditis in her right hind fetlock, on First Level, a liquid supplement. She is not actually lame on it as long as she is not kept on concrete, but she cannot flex the joint as much as her other hind fetlock. I did find that she had an increased range of motion while on the supplement. #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#Jakesterd wrote:#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#" Plasma concentrations of glucosamine and chondroiten sulphate in horses following an oral dose"? The results are most revealing!#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#The horses were fed either 5.5 or 9.5 grams of pure Glucosamine HCl twice a day.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#They found no increase in blood glucosamine levels in the blood of horses after feeding. The same held true for chondroiten. I quote " In no case out of 250 samples was any glucosamine detected in the horse plasma.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/BLOCKQUOTE#ed_cl#Dream_Merchant wrote:<font color=#006699><b><i>#ed_op#BR#ed_cl#Are you using Gluc for his joints and such Eileen?? If he has joint pain etc, then perhaps you could try putting magnetic boots on him -- they can be costly, depending which ones you get etc etc, but you get the good sort, they will last for years, and when your boy has finished using them, no doubt there will be another one in line that would benifit from them as well!#ed_op#BR#ed_cl##ed_op#BR#ed_cl#I honestly swear by them for older horses, really helped a lot of my horses, and one you buy them, your not forking out money to replenish it all the time.#ed_op#BR#ed_cl#</i></b></font>
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