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#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Uhg, its not as great as it seems... Not only am I skinny, but im 5'11.. Field boots sure are fun to shop for. As well as saddles, horses,breeches,jackets,show shirts Uhg, just thinking about it makes my head hurt.#ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys/Other/3.gif"#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#Sodapoppers wrote:#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#wsr - man you are a skinny little thing! I am sooo jealous #ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys/Angry/1.gif"#ed_cl##ed_op#IMG src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/richedit/smileys/Teasing/1.gif"#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#Thanks,hopfully the judges feel the same way about him this season! hm, if I can find a good jumping side view pic of him, I will post it.#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl# #ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#Edited to add pics, there screenshots so their pretty bad quality. These pics were taken during a mod. childrens class...you would think the jumps were 12' high. And ignore the disgusting equitation#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#longspot- #ed_op#A href="http://community.webshots.com/photo/184232719/189363371nwEWol"#ed_cl#http://community.webshots.com/photo/184232719/189363371nwEWol#ed_op#/A#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#Over Jumping by a good 3'-#ed_op#A href="http://community.webshots.com/photo/184232719/189362514aFgKZt"#ed_cl#http://community.webshots.com/photo/184232719/189362514aFgKZt#ed_op#/A#ed_cl##ed_op#BR#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#Brianna wrote:#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#6000bf#ed_cl#WSR - #ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#6000bf#ed_cl#VERY nice horse - that is what I personally like to see place in the hunter ring. 'Course, I say that mostly because I like the overall picture - and that is how my mare goes, too! lol#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#6000bf#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#
#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Sorry, that's as good as it gets #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#WSR wrote:#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#SP- JMHO, but in that pic, it looks like your horse needs to track up more and 'find the bit' for lack of a better term.
#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I completely agree with you. I have two different instructors/coaches, one of them a dressage rider and the other a jumper/eventer (I'm pretty sure she used to event and now rides jumpers lol). Both of them will get me to use a half seat at certain points in time when jumping or doing more of a hand gallop. However, they also both have me sit down towards the jumps. It enables the horse to move more freely and prevents both horse and rider from tiring as quickly. I still use my seat when in a half seat, although obviously in a different way then when I'm doing dressage. I definitely still use my legs and I never perch. I also maintain some contact with my horse normally and, aside from that, rely on my hands (or the rest of my arm rather, especially my shoulder, hehe) only for contact sometimes an opening inside rein type of thing.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#BarnBratCSA wrote: #ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT size=2#ed_cl#I'm not saying that it is correct to rid in a "light seat" all the time, but it is correct at some points. Forexample, when I'm riding a course, I will sit and use my seat from about 3 strides out, but on a larger course (my barn has a huge hunt course) where there is a lot of distance between lines or fences, I ride in light seat to get off my mares back and allow her to move forward and more freely. So if used correctly, there is consistantly a combination of light seat and full seat. Also, just because a rider is in light seat does NOT mean they arent using leg. In fact, riding in light seat and staying off the horses back puts more weight into your heel, causing a stronger leg throughout. I find I use more leg riding like this, actually. As I said, I'm sure all riders dont use the light seat correctly, but when used correctly there are benefits to the horse.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Quick question: you didn't happen to get her from the Ontario Breeders Production Sale or any of the people involved, did you? The gelding that I lease came from the Bowens #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Mystic wrote: #ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#thanks to her clyde/hackney breeding#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I've got pretty much the same to say here as I did to BarnBrat's comments. In other words, I really agree with you. In fact, this reminds me of a riding camp friend of mine that would always perch in a hunt seat at the canter. I haven't seen her in almost two years so I can't tell you how she rides now but IMO she truly was just posing there, and I remember that she couldn't ride nearly as well because of it.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Mystic wrote:#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I'm also not saying that half seat shouldn't be used as I use it all the time in ring to get my mare to really open up for the galloping stretches in the jumper ring but there is a difference between riding in half seat properly and just posing there. Someone that can ride effectively in full seat can ride with the same effectiveness in half seat but someone who just poses in half seat can't really ride effectively in half seat. Also in the hunter ring you never ride in full seat, even when showing on the flat. It's always half seat or two point otherwise they see you as being too dressagey. At least in the jumpers I can switch between full seat for the corners to balance my mare back and half seat to get her to stretch out.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Once again, I'm with you all the way. I have ridden some very lovely quarter horse crosses and probably even pure quarter horses. In fact, I can actually think of a purebred, ex-western schoolie at my barn that I think started to go round and in a frame (in the dressage sense) - chewing the bit and such - although she was never all that lovely a horse and is now used mainly for beginners. However, I think I know more quarter horses that are incredibly downhill and western-y.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#amadeo wrote: #ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I'm not a big fan of downhill horses AT ALL (which is why I really, really don't like quarter horses), so neither look appealing. It's a good thing I don't do hunter, if that's what they're looking for. A horse who's on the bit is what I'd prefer, not one that's low with its nose a foot from the ground like that.. looks lazy, unenthusiastic, and bored to me.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#IMO, the key word here is a dressage-#ed_op#EM#ed_cl#type#ed_op#/EM#ed_cl# frame. As far as I'm concerned, a horse will not be like that if in a proper dressage frame. However, I know horses that will put their heads down and appear to be nice and on the bit. I can think of two in particular: Quincy and Mr. T. Quincy, as it happens, was the quarter horse that I was kind of... imagining as I wrote about the downhill quarter horses. Even with an amazing dressage rider on him, one could only hope to get his head sufficiently up that he was not pulling down on the rider and completely on the forehand (which was not completely due to his low head - he also had a very downhill build and obviously there are other factors too); I doubt that he was ever capable of being properly 'on the bit' even if that's what he appeared to be. As it happens, my barn had to send him back to the cowboy that they bought him from because he had soundness issues - I think that he had a cold back. Mr. T was similar in that he would pull his head down and become very strong and also appear to be in a frame, although of course it was horrible and he was very much on the forehand. If ridden properly though, he could use his haunches and go nicely round.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Lix wrote:#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Very true. I had a mare that would 'round her neck' (for lack of better words) and bend at the poll. To the novice eye, it looked very dressage like, but in reality, she was just leaning on my hands. I paid for it, she was VERY strong. She was an ex-barrel racer and I never quite got her out of constantly leaning on my hand but even though she casted a pretty picture for an eye on the ground, she was VERY much on the forehand.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#PerfectAngel wrote: #ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I also must remind people that even though a horse is in a dressage-type frame that they can still easily be on the forhand
#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Hear hear! (Or is it 'Here, here!'? lol)#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Shoal wrote:#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I think EVERY rider could use basic dressage training..........not just learning to ride because it’s what the judges are looking for.#ed_op#BR#ed_cl##ed_op#BR#ed_cl#I can say that looking at a hunter horse now just doesn't do it for me. They look flat, no real movement from behind and no use of a correct seat from the rider (Not all but alot I've seen). Remember that I did ride and love hunter for a very long time.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#We must know a very different set of hunter riders. Almost all of my hunter friends do absolutely no dressage #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Anyhow, I think that's plenty, especially as I really should be going to bed soon. Also, please note that the only showing that I've ever done is in the form of equitation schooling shows at my barn, hence the lack of comments related more closely to hunter!#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#Lehane wrote:#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Also from a lot of the hunter riders I know, they DO do dressage now.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I know a lot of hunter riders that incorporate dressage into their program. I myself find it very helpful. a horse that knows basic dressage movements and is responsive to your aids is much more able to tackle anything you ask. My mare does a lot of basic dressage stuff, and I've taught a mare I have for sale to do a lot of dressage. There is a #ed_op#STRONG#ed_cl#team penning#ed_op#/STRONG#ed_cl# horse at my barn whose owner takes him off tam penning once a month or so, and she also allows a woman from the barn to do the hunters on him since her horse is lame. Talk about versitale. This horse goes in and wins in the hunters - cute form, very correct mover, consistant as the day is long....and then the next week he'll go out and win team penning. He knows a lot of basic dressage, and his owner his purely western. Just goes to show that a very type-y QH that's broke for western can go anywhere with the right training! #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#dressagenap wrote:#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#We must know a very different set of hunter riders. Almost all of my hunter friends do absolutely no dressage #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#
#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff40ff#ed_cl##ed_op#STRONG#ed_cl#My horse was a Medium 4 dressage( not sure what level that equals to now) horse before I got him(as well as a section 2 jumper), now he shows 'A' Hunter and has absolutely no problem in the hunter ring.#ed_op#/STRONG#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#/TR#ed_cl##ed_op#/TBODY#ed_cl##ed_op#/TABLE#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#dressagenap wrote:#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/B#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#/TR#ed_cl##ed_op#TR#ed_cl##ed_op#TD class=quote#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl# #ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#We must know a very different set of hunter riders. Almost all of my hunter friends do absolutely no dressage #ed_op#IMG alt=Sad src="http://forums.equestrianconnection.com/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif" border=0#ed_cl#
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